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| - This is my first time on a Wiki discussion page, so be nice :P I'm Zenith, and I'm new. I really like this Wiki now that I've taken the time to look around - it has a lot of potential. I feel at home here. Now, onto my proposal. I am rather well versed in web design, coding and what works and I would like to see some minor changes added to the layout models for books and characters. In my opinion, the current models lack real structure (please take no offense, I understand this is still a small Wiki). For characters, I will use my first contribution, Sister Armel as an example. I included a detailed story, a description of her appearance, related characters and books she appeared in. However, I didn't know about categories, and I didn't have an image of her. The current model doesn't allow for appearance descriptions and related characters and such. I propose that the new model look something like this:
* 1. Image, if available (right alignment, with description)
* 2. The character's story
* 3. Description of physical appearance, and maybe personality
* 4. Related characters (keep it to a minimum, maybe only relatvies and close friends)
* 5. Books appeared in (LIST form)
* 6. Categories As to right alignment of the image, I say that because that would be more functional instead of scrolling past a rather long image and then reading the article. It also looks neater and more professional. For book pages, these are in real need of structure. I suggest applying right alignment to all covers and images, to give conformity. The statistics such as ISBN, page count, maybe chapter count, publishing year, illustrator, etc be put into a list instead of loose paragraphs willy-nilly. So I propose that the new model look something like this:
* 1. Covers: US and UK, both aligned right
* 2. The statistics in list form: Year, book number, chronological order (from off. site), illustrator, hardcover page count, chapter count, ISBN...
* 3. Detailed summary
* 4. Awards (if applicable)
* 5. Books template Giving the templates structure makes it easier for visitors to find the information they need, and hopefully encouraging them to come back. I will very gladly keep expanding pages, but I don't want to go outside of the model. I hope I don't come off as too bossy or commanding, I'm only trying to help. I will happily vote for this Wiki as Wiki of the Month. So, what do you think? Oh yeah! I added this Wiki as a link at my fanlisting :) Zenith 18:41, 24 January 2006 (UTC) Hi Zenith, welcome to the Redwall Wiki! I'm glad you decided to join the site and help out. I have no real problems with your structure suggestions and you can feel free to implement them if you would like to, however there are some minor issues: 1. On pages with more than 1 character image, the tags are used, and those really can't be aligned in any given direction. 2. The concern I have with the "character story" is that it's almost like repetitive plot summary from the book. Imagine reading the book's plot summary, then 20 characters that repeat the same thing. Book plot summary in character description seems awkward to me. Also I'd like to avoid as much editorial as possible, that is sticking exactly what BJ described characters as, etc. if that makes sense. I hope I'm not coming off too harshly or strongly here, I like to think I'm a fairly reasonable guy :D --LordTBT 19:05, 24 January 2006 (UTC) Oh, hi! Hehe, no problems at all. I guess I should say that by "detailed story" for character would be more than "Sister Armel was a squirrel, and married Tam." More like, her part in the story. The book summary is the entire summary, each character's summary would be their storyline (watered down a LOT, though. including only the important parts - not every reference in every chapter to the character.). Because surely the book summary can't include every character's contributions. And as for description, just a simple sentance describing the character. So, for Doogy Plumm it would be "He was described as short, fat with a broad Highland accent, and rather riery temper if angered." Nothing more than that, keeping it simple. We know there is lots more to Doogy Plumm's characteristics, such as he's sarcastic, impatient and fiercely loyal. But yeah, I don't mean an entire book on each character xD. I will have to find an example of , because I've never seen that before. (Except maybe on Wiki Commons or something). I guess what I meant though was, for the book pages both covers are listed on the page. So if like.... one or two images are used, the images should be kept to the right, but for galleries no sweat. (*hopes she's making sense*) (just edited to say that I agree that providing character stories and book summaries might be a little redundant, so we must use discerrnment on what to and what not to include for each :)) -- Zenith 19:28, 24 January 2006 (UTC) Just wanted to add-- if you'd like to see examples of the thing, Rollo, Tiria Wildlough and Matthias's pages all have that. --Cornflower 20:48, 24 January 2006 (UTC) Oh, thank you! I understand now :) -- Zenith 21:04, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
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