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| - Ordinary users not having a part in the Inquisitorius—We voted for you, so why don't we get a say in the dealings of the Inquisitorius? Just as regular users get to participate in admin nominations along with actual admins, ordinary users should be able to participate in the votes on removing articles from FA status. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) File:Imperial Emblem.svg 23:05, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
* Anyone can join the Inquisitorius, just start getting involved—showing up at our IRC meetings is a good first step.=) --http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/e/e5/ATATatarismall.png 23:35, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
* Where does it say that anyone can join the Inq? I have a hard time navigating the Inq-pages. KEJ 23:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
* It doesn't. Inqs were originally appointed by community vote, but recently they've started accepting new members at their IRC meetings. --http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/e/e5/ATATatarismall.png 23:46, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
* Okay, so this information will be made public, I assume. KEJ 23:47, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
* Sure, I'll set up a page tomorrow. --http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/e/e5/ATATatarismall.png 23:49, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
* Ah...I'm not quite sure we're going to start accepting people willy-nilly. Inq status is usually granted to those who are actively involved with FA. .... 23:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
* Yes, of course. But in theory anyone can join the Inq. --http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/e/e5/ATATatarismall.png 23:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
* Well, whenever you sort it out, it should be made public - it would make the Inq seem less clique-ish. KEJ 23:53, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
* Jack, if ordinary users voted, there would be no Inquisitorius. There would just be ordinary users voting. The whole point of it is that it's a system to judge quality (which is, as much as we try to codify it with rules, a subjective matter). Being a subjective matter, it's staffed by people whose judgment the community, through their votes, trusts in making those decisions. It's not Johnny Newuser voting not to remove Boba Fett's FA status because Boba is kewl. It's designed to stop that sort of abuse of the consensus system. Everyone still gets to vote for FAs. We just get to check out everything to make sure it actually stands up to the standards the community has established. When you ask for a say because you voted for us, you've got it backwards. Your say was to vote for us. We're representatives of the community and the requirements created through the community's consensus. We're working for you, the greater community. We're not making up rules here, though personal interpretations of the specifics of rules will vary as personal interpretations are wont to do. However, there are 13 of us, and any aberrant personal interpretations will be canceled out by the greater weight of the rest of the Inquisitorius. In short, I don't see what your concern is, other than the fact that Fourdot is impolite (though impotent [and any issues with him should be taken up with him and not the Inquisitorius as a whole]) and that an article you happen to like has been targeted. Havac 00:11, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
* Perhaps you misunderstood me: Inquisitors would still have the final say in the matter. Besides, opening up the Inquisitorius a little bit so normal users can participate a little bit would help its image. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) File:Imperial Emblem.svg 00:37, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
* Well, then, if Inquisitors have the final say, what's the point of letting anyone else vote? It would just be a mollifying illusion. Havac 00:39, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
* It would prove that certain Inquisitors don't consider themselves to be elite. —Grand Admiral J. Nebulax (Imperial Holovision) File:Imperial Emblem.svg 00:42, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
* How would the provision of comforting illusions prove anything? If you want to accuse individual Inquisitors of being elitists, then say it. If you want to accuse the Inquisitorius as a concept of being elitist, say it. But dancing around the issue only makes it more difficult to address. Havac 00:59, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
* I think he's already said that elsewhere, but it was brushed off somewaht uncivilly. KEJ 17:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
* The problem with a "board of experts" (and I use the term very loosely) is that it has to be made up of experts. I've said this elsewhere, and I'll say it again- if you are willing to put forth the effort and show good judgment in FA and GA, I will be happy to support your entry into the Inquisitorius- even at the cost of my own position if need be. That being said- the pages and meetings are all public knowledge. That also being said, Inquisitorius votes should be just Inq votes, or else it's not an Inq vote at all. Atarumaster88 File:Jedi Order.svg (Audience Chamber) 03:07, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
* I'm all for settling things civilly, and as a member of the Inq, I take exception to the fact that all we do is strip FA status from articles as some sort of vendetta against the people who wrote them. This is simply not true (at least not in my case...can't speak for the rest of the Inq). My votes to remove or keep are based on the criteria established for FAs, and whether or not the article currently meets them. Unfortunately, most of the past FAs do not meet our current standards, so they get put on notice by the Inq. After that, the community has two weeks to fix up the article so it can stay at FA status; whether or not the community actually does so is another matter. Basically, it's a case of "use it or lose it". If the community can't keep the article up to snuff, the FA status goes bye-bye. We don't strip articles of FA staus willy-nilly or as a grudge against anyone...that's not the way we work. It's all about the quality of the article. The Inq and the community should be working together in keeping articles up to snuff, not be at each other's throats. StarNeptuneTalk to me! 16:00, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
* Um, Imp, "Anyone can join the Inquisitorius, just start getting involved—showing up at our IRC meetings is a good first step."...#wookieepedia-inquisitorius is invite-only...tzzA 00:18, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
* That's to make sure we don't get interrupted. If you wish to participate, we'll invite you. --http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/e/e5/ATATatarismall.png 00:26, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
* Ah. That makes sense(as evidenced by the last Mofference:~{).tzzA 00:36, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
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