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| - Well now hold on a sec. Mashima-sensei has made numerous trips to the US through Del Ray, and the volumes state that those were the official spellings chosen by him. Shouldn't the Wiki go with those rather than what's most common in the fandom? Even though they're more common, they're wrong. I honestly can't say that KEFI scans or Franky House know more than the actual creator of the series on how to name his characters. Remember that scanlators go with whatever they believe to be correct--they're romanizations based on the idea of some random person. -Mr. Toto 13:48, 12 June 2009 (UTC) I agree with you, I have a volume that says too, but we reached a consensus before about it. But consensuses can easily change. Dalyup! 15:42, 12 June 2009 (UTC) Well he names of characters can be said in many different ways, until someone can get evidence that he says Laxus or Mystogan we usually keep them this way -Umi They are used in the Del Ray serialisation of the manga which can be taken to be true due to a message in the volumes that can be seen here. I can't take a physical photo because I don't have a camera to do so. Dalyup! 20:54, 12 June 2009 (UTC) Aside from that, I don't know if you guys realize that most scanlations are done by college students. The translator for KEFI, Ocean, just went with whatever he thought sounded good. This is cited information--you can't just decide what's in the English version is wrong because you think it is. It's what the creator went with himself.-Mr. Toto 17:29, 13 June 2009 (UTC) Says who? How do you know they are not like Viz who makes up crap? Drunk Samurai 18:37, 13 June 2009 (UTC) My money's on the people who are a legitimate business and have actual contact with both the author and the company that publish the series--not some college kid doing this for fun. They also have translation notes at the end of every book. Their translation is so faithful that they preserve honorifics. -Mr. Toto 19:41, 13 June 2009 (UTC) The english manga isnt wrong necessarily, but its contradictory still, EX: The call Gray's magic Ice Magic, despite the fact the kanji of his magic (Hyojin) has nothing to do with magic, as it says "Ice" and the translations that makes the most sense would be "form or formation" Japanese and English cant be compared, Japan uses words that wont make sense in english, which is why translators put in what fits the best, as does Del Ray, just because they have an editor note doesnt mean that there the only possible translation -Umi You might want to look again at that. Gray's magic is written as "氷の造形魔法" in Japanese, or literally "Ice Molding Magic." The last two Kanji are specifically the words for magic in Japanese, "mahou." What you're talking about is Gray's attack "Hyoujin Nanarenbu." That means "Seven Dancing Swords," and Gray never even uses that attack until chapter 89. Del Rey hasn't even gotten there yet. They've left literally all of his attack names the exact same thus far. -Mr. Toto 19:41, 13 June 2009 (UTC) Perhaps they did get the magic names and such wrong, but they did say in the editor's note that it was spellings of characters. Not magic or attack names or whatever. And, Drunk, how are we supposed to prove a negative? Why would Del Ray lie when Mashima's agent or publishers or whatever would slap a lawsuit on their ass by saying Mashima did something he didn't? At least show some evidence of Del Ray simply making it up. Dalyup! 19:37, 13 June 2009 (UTC) They wouldn't sue them for something like that. I'm just saying you shouldn't believe EVERYTHING a company says. Drunk Samurai 02:01, 14 June 2009 (UTC) That's just paranoia. Del Rey is a legitimate business. Any time they don't know how to translate something, like Nikora, they put it in the liner notes. There's even rationale for translating "madoushi" into "wizard." They were responsible for bringing the creator to the US last year--I'm sure he could have talked to them then. It's not like there's some huge conspiracy going on here--Mashima gave them the official names. -Mr. Toto 02:35, 14 June 2009 (UTC) Alright i submit, neither you or drunk samurai or willing to give this up, so have fun with trolls -Umi
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